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Disinformation Cycle : Deltoid. Brent Thread : Deltoid. Camille Paglia is an idiot : Deltoid. Monckton's PCC complaint rejected : Deltoid. Tony Abbott and the Roman Warm Period : Deltoid. Ian Musgrave has written an open letter to Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, correcting him on his claim that “at the time of Julius Caesar and Jesus of Nazareth the climate was considerably warmer than it is now”. But where did Abbott get the notion that it was considerably warmer in Roman times? Most likely from Ian Plimer, who on page 59 of Heaven and Earth writes: The Roman Warming Period (250 BC – 450 AD)Warming started about 250 BC and was enjoyed by the Greeks and Romans. The Romans had it easy. Although the Empire started in cool period, grapes were grown in Rome in 150 BC. By the 1st Century BC, Roman scribes record little snow and ice and that vineyards and olive groves extended northwards in Italy.[213] At he peak of the Roman warming, olive trees grew in the Rhine valley of Germany.

The location of vineyards is a good climate proxy. . “2 to 6°C warmer” would certainly qualify as “considerably warmer”, but as he commonly does, Plimer provides no cite to support his claims. McIntyre the quote mining executive : Deltoid.