Wikileaks CIA, Soros and Competitors Backlash. 12 December 2010 Wikileaks CIA, Soros and Competitors Backlash It is often reported that John Young accused Wikileaks during its formation of being associated with the CIA and/or George Soros. Not correct, he said its lofty goals and secret procedures mimic those authoritarian meddlers, which remains correct. Here are his statements and Wikileaks acknowledgement followed by predicted competitor backlash: Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 06:58:04 -0800 To: From: John Young <jya[a t]pipeline.com> [This is a restricted internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.
To: John Young <jya[a t]pipeline.com> From: Wikileaks <wikileaks[a t]wikileaks.org> Subject: martha stuart pgp Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 12:20:25 -0500 -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: None J. Prediction about competitors' backlash to Wikileaks: CIA answer, 25 October 2010, to a Cryptome FOIA request for its Wikileaks files. Wikileaks Streams of Hidden Money. 11 December 2010 Wikileaks Streams of Hidden Money A writes: >Wikileaks Donation To Manning Defence Fund ( ) > >I saw your piece concerning the above, good work. I am surprised >that the expected contribution is only $20K, this is small money >considering the past and future income Manning has/will generate(d) >for Wikileaks.
Cryptome: Indeed. Daniel was quoted today or yesterday saying there were unidentified financial irregularities, always a hot button. I imagine there were and are several streams of income -- compartmented for concealment from exploited volunteers, from tax authorities, from other donors -- a quite common financial management technique. I assume Schmidt smelled a rat, or a payment was missed, and confronted Assange which led to the break. Wau Holland (among others) has likely been used as part of the WL bait-and-switch subterfuge, as it has indicated by emphasizing it does not handle all of Wikileaks donations. Six Anti-Theses on WikiLeaks. 11 December 2010 Six Anti-Theses on WikiLeaks Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 23:41:07 -0500 From: Faculty of the College of Ontopoetic Machines <faculty[at]ontopoeticmachines.org> To: nettime-l[at]kein.org Subject: <nettime> Six Anti-Theses on WikiLeaks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [Degraded by HTML conversion.
See original at nettime archive.] Hash: SHA1 Six Anti-Theses on WikiLeaks Following "Twelve theses on WikiLeaks" by Geert Lovink & Patrice Riemens 1. The corporate abdication of non-discrimination prefigures more scrutiny of online activity. 2. WikiLeaks found a characteristically computational way around their hosting problems, drawing on an unorganized group of volunteers to provide mirrors of the site ( 3. WikiLeaks is highly collaborative, and not only as a result of the recent mirroring activity. 4. The "Cablegate" release also shows the importance of having collaborators within governmental and military institutions. 5. 6. David Linder v. Wikipedia and Wikileaks. Wikileaks Targets Daniel Ellsberg Brand.
13 December 2010. Updated. 12 December 2010. The [WL] messages are excerpted without redactions from: Wikileaks Targets Daniel Ellsberg Brand To: Barton Gellman From: John Young <jya[at]pipeline.com>Subject: URLs Date: Monday, 13 Dec 2010 Yes, Hanna, but that name and that email address could be spoofs or throwaways of a guy or a girl or a group. To: Barton Gellman From: John Young <jya[at]pipeline.com>Subject: Architect Date: Monday, 13 Dec 2010 Active New York City architect.
To: Barton Gellman From: John Young <jya[at]pipeline.com>Subject: URLs Date: Sunday, 12 Dec 2010 Bart, These have just been published on Cryptome: To: funtimesahead[at]lists.riseup.net From: Hanna De Jong <snow[at]xs4all.nl> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 20:42:37 +1100 Subject: [WL] Copy of WL letter to Ellsberg. Time Man of the Year is a pretty good brand of liquored-up coffee -- when fresh.