Seed rounds: Converts vs Equity

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Paul Graham: Convertible notes have won... High Resolution Fundraising. September 2010 The reason startups have been using more convertible notes in angel rounds is that they make deals close faster.

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By making it easier for startups to give different prices to different investors, they help them break the sort of deadlock that happens when investors all wait to see who else is going to invest. Has convertible debt won? And if it has, is that a good thing? Paul Graham, founder of Y-Combinator, sent out a tweet on Friday saying: “Convertible notes have won.

Has convertible debt won? And if it has, is that a good thing?

Every investment so far in this YC batch (and there have been a lot) has been done on a convertible note.” It’s an interesting data point on Y-Combinator companies, but is this truly a macro trend? Have convertible notes really won? And if so is that good for start-ups? Good for investors? Is Convertible Debt Preferable to Equity? Seth Levine of Foundry Group addresses this important topic this morning on his blog with a post, “Has Convertible Debt Won?”

Is Convertible Debt Preferable to Equity?

Seth was basing this on a Tweet by Paul Graham that said” “Convertible notes have won. Every investment so far in this YC batch (and there have been a lot) has been done on a convertible note.” I have to say that I didn’t take the question to mean that convertible debt had won for the entire market, but either way it’s clear that convertible debt has become an increasing trend. Some Thoughts On Convertible Debt. Seth Levine has a long and thoughtful post on convertible debt vs equity.

Some Thoughts On Convertible Debt

If you are an entrepreneur or active in the angel/seed sector, you should read it. He wrote it in response to Paul Graham's tweet that said: Convertible notes have won. Every investment so far in this YC batch (and there have been a lot) has been done on a convertible note. Converts versus equity deals cdixon.org – chris dixon's blog.

There has been a debate going on the past few days over whether seed deals should be funded using equity or convertible notes (converts).

Converts versus equity deals cdixon.org – chris dixon's blog

Paul Graham kicked it off by noting that all the financings in the recent YC batch were converts. Prominent investors including Mark Suster and Seth Levine weighed in (I highly recommend reading their posts). While this debate might sound technical, at its core it is really about a difference in seed investing philosophy. False dichotomies in convertible note vs equity seed rounds. Using convertible notes vs priced equity in seed rounds is a hot topic right now.

False dichotomies in convertible note vs equity seed rounds

For background, see recent posts by Seth Levine, Chris Dixon, Fred Wilson, Paul Graham, Ben Yoskovitz, Bill Burnham, Mark Suster, William Carleton and Patrick McKenzie as well as older posts by Venture Hacks, Yokum Taku, Brad Feld, and Josh Kopelman. If I missed any good ones, please let me know and I'll add them to this list. Raising Financing: Convertible Debt vs. Equity. Seth Levine from Foundry Group touched off a debate on which is the best way to raise startup financing: convertible debt or equity.

Raising Financing: Convertible Debt vs. Equity

Paul Graham (intentionally or not) actually started things with a tweet, “Convertible notes have won. Every investment so far in this YC batch (and there have been a lot) has been done on a convertible note.” Fred Wilson joined the conversation, as did Mark Suster. All prominent and successful investors. And generally, they’re not fans of convertible debt.